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Wednesday, 9 April 2008

Blog 9

Hello
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Respond by April 18, 2008 if you want more than an F.

Should China host the Olympics? What do you think of this quote? "No human rights, no Olympics."

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/04/08/us.olympic.torch/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Happy blogging.

Mr Mc

65 comments:

Anonymous said...

"One World. One Dream. Free Tibet."
Interesting quote. But I do think that not only Tibet is in this situation right now. Reading the article, I had some confusing thoughts and weird feelings. I want Tibet to be an independent country, free from the hands of Communist China. I don't think that Communism is such a great idea, though some may disagree with me. I think Tibet is sort of doing the wrong thing to get attention from China, wanting to gain freedom, by burning down Chinese buildings and such. However, I think that doing these things might make China to rethink about these things, but I know that this will take a long time for them to change their minds. I think that the world chose the wrong country to hold the 2008 Olympics in. I don't think that it's a good idea for Beijing to hold the Olympics because first of all, the place is already overpopulated, and if more people are to come to watch the Olympics, the place would turn into a war. Accordingly, there was some new some time ago that China was planning to send all the foreigners out of their countries, just for the olympics. I think that by doing this, they are also trying to get rid of missionaries that may be working in the fields of China. Perhaps there's a plan behind all this that nobody knows about. Who knows.

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Anonymous said...

I really think politics should not be involved with the games. Olympics have been a tradition of series of games for entertainement and showing pride of their countries. It should never have to do with politics. This is very far from the entertainemnet of the game itself. The games should be intact and away from any commmunism regualtion. The tradition should go on like normally. I think this article was chosen to teach us world life conflicts that are relevant to politics. This is a very conmtroversial debate. This realtes to something we have learned because we learned about China's dominance as a communist country who is not leaving Tibet alone.

Anonymous said...

I believe that China should still hold the Olympics. This decision was already made a long time ago, and it wouldn't be right to change it now. I have heard about Tibet's protests for independence, and China's crackdown for Tibet's demonstrations, but the Beijing Olympics should still be held. Just because there are problems in China and Tibet the Olympics shouldn't be postponed or held somewhere else. I understand there will be many problems, but the Olympics is a event that has been going on for a long, long, time. These people must understand that their protests aren't going to change anything and that the Olympics have nothing to do with it. The banner 'no human rights, no olympics' doesn't make sense to me. The Olympics really has nothing to do with the Tibetans, and its just sports. As I said before, China has been chosen to be the host a long time ago and now that there's this Tibet problem people are protesting. They should have done that long time ago before the torch was there. Yes, it is true that China will get lots of money from the Olympics. However, China is already the host and they could use a bit of money anyways. Things should go as planned.

Anonymous said...

It seems like the protest is very serious that they are going to interrupt the Olympics in China: "No human rights, No Olympics." I wonder what they are going to do if China keeps ignoring Tibet. They are even protesting in Paris, Britain and they even follow the torchbearers and protest. People are having problems rejecting protesters. I think not letting tibet free is bad, but I think the protesters shouldn't interrupt or ruin the Olympics. It's a big event to the world, everyone from other countries will come to China and watch the Olympics, but the Tibetans should not mess up the Olympics. I think the protesters should delay the protest after the Olympics or just give up on being independent, which they will never do and they should respect the world wide famous event. If China refuses protesters, the protesters might cause a big problem, such as blowing up the Olympic stadium, so China should consider about this, too instead of being selfish. If this get worse, they will end up having a really bad relationship like a relationship between U.S. and Iraq. I hope this will stop soon, so people can enjoy watching the Olympics.

Anonymous said...

Though Tibet wants independence, a promise is a promise. Olympic should be still held in China. China has been preparing for this olymic for years. I disagree with the quote "No human rights, no Olymics." Politics and sports should not be compared.
After Korea gained its independence from Japan, a war between North Korea and South Korea happened because Korea had no government. I think that Tibet will also have a war when they gain independence for they will not have a government.

Anonymous said...

I think that the Chinese government needs to listen to the olympic protesters and not use violence against the tibetan protesters but because tibet is a part of China they need to work out themselves either how to live in harmony or how to get independence from the Chinese without violence. The Olympics may be a source of pride for many countries but they should be seperated from all politics and the Tibetans should not use the games to get attention.
I think that around the world we can support tibetans but doing it through protests that may delay or even stop the olympics is wrong.
I believe in "Stop Killing" as a good reason because to take anothers life is wrong but "No human rights, no olympics" is not a term i support.
I think this ties in with SS class becuase we studied China and we are studying countries that fought for their independence right now.

Anonymous said...

I think it is really unfair that the people are protesting that China shouldn’t hold the Olympics just because they aren’t freeing Tibet because China has done so many things to get ready for the Olympics and it wouldn’t be right or fair to change it now. Also, in my opinion, China took over Tibet through military force, so they have the right of controlling Tibet, although I would like for Tibet to be free. I think the only reason why the people don’t want China to hold the Olympics is becausa3e they want their country to hold it. Also, if the location of the Olympics is changed now, the new location wouldn’t have much time to prepare for the Olympics because it is this year this summer. And as for the quote "No human rights, no Olympics." I think it means that if you don’t have good human rights in your country, you shouldn’t hold the Olympics because you would set a bad example or something. I am not really sure of the meaning… I think we were suppose to read this article because it is a huge event and it is coming up and because it is about Asia, even though we already learned about China long time ago. :3

Anonymous said...

I do not think that it is wrong for the Tibetans to want freedom. But I do not think that it is such a good idea for them to get their issues with Olympics; something that is has to do with so many countries in the world and almost every one in this earth. But then, China should have felt something by watching the protestors climbing up the bridge to hand banners, or even just watching them prothesting. They should realize that is how much Tibet want its independence back, and consider about it. But they are probably just thinking that the Tibetans are acting foolish, protesting out even in the U.S. They are now just saying that they will continue with the torches. What I also think is weird of them is that they are blaming this on Dalai Lama and his followers on this. Actually, they should really blame anyone for it's not their fault that they want freedom. I think that it's probably China's fault, not letting Tibet go. They are just grasping hold of it.
And because there is Olympics held in China, the Chinese government are earning money because a lot of people are thinking or are going to China to watch the Olympics. The Tibetans don't want China to get any richer. If the Chinese government use the money on the people or other good things, then the Tibetans wouldn't mind. However, the Chinese government are not using the money for the Tibetans' sakes or to do good for the country

Anonymous said...

if china doesn't give tibet their independance, I think China shouldn't be able to host the olympics. not only that, but i think China should get even sevear punishments. a few years ago, the world was in chaos with WWII but now there is not much chaos and the world is really peaceful. it's a different age since then so i think things like other countries conquering other countries should be stopped now. tibet has all the capabilities of being a country of its own.however, even though this is a big situation Tibetans should not mess up the Olympics. I think the protesters should delay the protest after the Olympics or just give up on being independent, which they will never do and they should respect the world wide famous event. If China refuses protesters, the protesters might cause a big problem, such as blowing up the Olympic stadium, so China should consider about this, too instead of being selfish. If this get worse, they will end up having a really bad relationship like a relationship between U.S. and Iraq. I hope this will stop soon, so people can enjoy watching the Olympics.

Anonymous said...

April 9, 2008

Clash probably happens almost everywhere. I don’t object on the clash between China’s main government and the Tibetans. However, for sure the clash happening right now is uncivilized. Violent methods to suppress the protest and the rough method to protest is not good at all. First of all, both sides should lower their extremes. The quote “No civil rights, no Olympics” clearly states and criticizes the government of China, by implying that the government is oppressing people’s freedom while they are busy on gathering foreign attentions. I guess the quote was trying to state that China’s government should look in to the struggles inside rather than focusing on something from outside. To both sides what their trying to defend must be very important to them: the protestors sorely want their Civil Rights and as well as Tibet’s freedom, while the government’s desire could be to open up Beijing and attract foreigners in. I do not know how the problem would be resolved. However, in my opinion, the government’s method to oppress the protest with force is not the best solution, neither for stopping the protest nor successfully hosting the Olympics. Yes, I would like the Olympic to go on, but the hosting place shouldn’t be a battleground. I think calming the protest and a good negotiation would be the best temporary solution. However, easier to say than do, I do not know for sure on what should happen. I think Mr. McAllister posted this post to get a feeling of what is going on in China right now, for the Tibet protest and such are big issues for the moment. I think this post relates to the class because it might be a good source to see China’s current events as well as studying Tibetans who want independence.

Anonymous said...

I think that the Chinese should hold the Olympics and I don't know why they are blaming the things with the problem with Tibet. Tibet should be independent now although they might not be doing the right things such as destroy China's properties. Anyways, I don't understand why Olympics and the problem with Communism/Tibet/Independence has to do with each other. I think thi is just a bit stupid. But you can't just assume because you don't know what they are up to

Anonymous said...

There are a lot of quotes and a lot of problems going on with tibet and China. China is beating up the Tibetans that is rioting toward their independence. Even though China is not giving human rights, i think they should open the olympics. Human right is a issue, not a problem. Tibetans are rioting toward China, and it is disturbing China's olympic so i think China has only few choices, but China kind of chose a bad decision, but still that can't make them stop from opening olympic because olympic is just few months away. They can't just ban China to open Olympic. I think people are trying to just make a big deal with just a small deal. If they cancel the olympic in China they would have to push the olympics few years later again and there is London olympics several years later and that would break the pattern of olympic.

Aguri said...

I can't believe that that many people don't want china to host the olympics. If that many people hate that, then I hate to see what the chinese government would do if the protestors were in China. It looks like a lot of people hate China. And I can see why. China doesn't really care about their people, they are a communist government, and they really only care about money. I wish China would change their ways and try to help their people have a better life.

Caleb J. said...

I really think that Beijing should not be allowed to host the Olimpics in the first place. The are now allowing the basics of living rights, so I dont think that they should have even been considered.

Anonymous said...

This is so sad. I think China should give freedom to Tibet and the Olympics should still be held in China. I don't think it's right to change the place just because of the Tibet problem and I agree that sports are just sports and games are just games. I also agree that politics shouldn't be involved in this Olympic thing because sports are to have fun not to do politic things.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the blog. Well...i'm kind of surprise. I didn't heard this before so, it was a good news.
I trust that politics will not involve at the Olympic games. They shouldn't do that becasuse Olympic game have been a traditional of years of entertainment. And it everyones fun!

Anonymous said...

I don't know why China always was the victim or had bad ideas about China. Freeing Tibet really is China's choice and we are protesting that China is doing bad things. It is like saying because I'm not eating my yellow ice cream, they are saying eat it. I don't really have bad ideas about Communist because it is their choice. It is like religion. For example, I'm Christian and my friend named Bob is Buddhisht. I can't say Buddisht is fake and he can't say Jesus is fake. That is because we both have diffrent ideas and we can't insult our ideas. The protest had made China more angry and suspicious because they will think, "Why do they need Tibet so badly?" is there oil, diamond, or any resources??" made the China made more time to think about to free Tibet is not. The picking of Olympic was kind of bad choice. Because now, China is world first popuklation, and when they hold Olympic, all people will gather to one place and because it is so crowded, they are possibility of terrosist. Back to the situation of Tibet. Also, but, it can make reverse effect. China could be afraid and chose to free them early,. I'm really 50% and 50%. But really, patient is everything. No one knows.

Anonymous said...

I think that China should free Tibet but Tibet should pursue their non violence movements. Also, China should not kill all those people just because they disagree with them, if China wants to hold the Olympics they should be happy to know what others think of their country and its actions. I think that having the Olympics in China was a bad idea because it shows how people in China gets treated and how a Communist country works but China should not lie about Tibet to its people and act like they're gods. It will get China even more criticism for their country. I agree with the quote, "No human rights, No Olympics" because how can athletes representing their country be sure that the Chinese government won't kill them so China can win all the medals? Olympics is a games to show pride in your country by playing these various sports, but if China can kill all the people in Tibet for disagreeing with them, then why is it so hard for them to kill other country athletes. I think that because the Olympics are going to be held in China, politics is just one of the bumps in the road that they have to cross and so is human rights and overpopulation. I’m really wondering why China would want to host the Olympics, maybe for money or for weapons to buy that money or just they wanted to. I think that China did not make a wise decision because they should have known this will happen. I think that in any country this could happen it’s just that China gets so much criticism for being so cruel to Tibet and not letting people have basic human rights. Since China had these problems even before the Olympics I don’t know why people say why is Tibet doing those things, China should just give up Tibet and let Tibet have their own country.

Anonymous said...

I think olympic should still held in China and give freedom to Tibet.
I also think China should give independent to Tibet. However china had prepared for Olympic for a long time, so changing the plce is not a such a good idea. Olympic is for fun it doesn't have to relate with politics.

Anonymous said...

The post above is by 02784

Anonymous said...

wow i didnt know that having the olympic in china was that big of a problem to a nation. altough i think chinease government should give freedom for tibet for thibetians and for them. i dont know how that will affect in a way that chiina has a communism but i think they should free them asap. it has been too long and now it is affecting the world in one of the biggest events for the whole world. i think the quote is an interesting quote. I understand the tibet people and i think that is the right thing to be done first. however at the same time, i dont think that should stop china from have the olympic in their country. im sure they have been preparing and it can do great benefit to them and the place for olympic is fairly voted from people so they can have the olympic although they have some problem. it wouldnt be comforting as much, but i believe thatgetting used to the place is part of the global game. they should look it as a different thing. they officially won and they have the right. they have a problem which needs to be solved but the olympic is something they are very pleased that it is taking place in china.
i think mr.Mc chose this article for us becuase we are learning about south asia and we also learned about china in detail.
this connects to what we have been doing in class becuase the history, governmental problems are one of the things that we were looking at from asian's perspetive. we are going to learn more about tibet and it is good to have a quick view of what is happening currently and apply it to our knowledge that we learned in class already.:]]]]

Anonymous said...

Since the olympics have occured in China, Beijing there have been many trouble occuring. However, the biggest threat is the rise of independence of Tibet. Before this great incident there have been problems of protesters. It said police opened fire on hundreds of Buddhist monks and lay people who marched on local government offices to demand the release of two monks detained for possessing photographs of the Dalai Lama, Tibet's exiled Buddhist leader. And now Thousands of protesters demonstrated against China's human rights record and its crackdown in Tibet after the Olympic flame arrived in San Francisco Tuesday.
The protesters have met in San Francisco holding the sign of "No human rights, no Olympics." I believe that Chinese Governments
did not cause all of this however the Tibet Dalai Lama is the problem forcing them for independence right before the time of the world's biggest athletic competition. The Tibets have the right to do this however it is kind of harsh the way they are pressuring the Chinese governments.

Anonymous said...

I think eventhough something happen, the olympic must be open because that is the rule and most all the people is willing to see. China is trying to make the best condition in order to start the olympic. But if China leave Tibet like that then they can go around the world and start protesting everywhere. I think the olympic and Tibet is going to hard problem to solve. But I think China can do it. China went into to cleaning all the thing that is not using and I hope that that goes well too because I want to see it remember olympic starts at 8/8/08 at 8:08. China fighting and I hope that everything goes fine

Mr and Mrs L said...

Hi, Grade 8:

You've got some great comments here. Who would decide to pull the Olympics? Are the International Olympic Committee members going to decide? Mrs Lavender just returned from Beijing and she brought Chinese newspapers that describe how China "peacefully liberated" Tibet from tyranny. It's clear that there are at least two perspectives on who should be in charge. Further, should the Olympics be banned from all nations that "occupy" other countries with military forces? Keep thinking about it...
Mr Lavender (guest blogger)
(Mr Mc, please don't give me an "F")

Anonymous said...

i think that tibet should be independent and be free from China. :] but i also think that the protseters shouldn't protest by burning up buildings and doing dangerous things..

Anonymous said...

I think that the quote, "No Human Rights, No Olympics", is very powerful and I agree with it because I think that if China is not using proper human rights, they should lose their privaleges of hosting the olympics, no matter how much work has already been put into it. I think that human rights is a much bigger picture in China than what is advertized because I have heard about human rights violations that have happened before there and nothing has been done about it. I feel bad that Tibet has to suffer under the control of the Chinese government while they should be a free country. Recently my mom went to China and all through the newspapers there, it said that Tibet should be happy that China peacefully liberated them from the state that they were in, when really they forcefully took over their government. This shows that China is feeding lies to the people of their country about human rights and what they are really involved in. I think that it's time that some other countries took action in what China is involved in and how they are violating human rights.

Anonymous said...

Despite all the things that they have done, i think that tibet deserves to be free. They are it's own "country" with a different culture and language from the chinese. But i think it was wrong of them to burn things and hold protests and such.
I think that china should hold the olympics. As it already has been decided, does it really matter where the olympics take place? Politics and Sports should not be mixed. The human rights thing, has nothing to do with the olympics. Although i wish for tibet to be free, this is the wrong time, and just not right. But then, we do have to realize that tibet is a big part of china, and if tibet gains independence, then china loses a big part of their land. Changing the olympics is totally not related to human rights. Why interact both things?

African Globe Trotters. said...

If you have not yet commented please do so by Friday.

Mr. Lavender, thank you for contributing, it is great to have guests. What do you think of your friends or Mr. Lavenders comments?

(extra credit for bonus comments!)

AnthonyK said...

I think that this follows along nicely with what is all over the news. I always hear on the news about the Tibetans protesting aginst China and how they shouldn't be hosting the olympics. I sort of agree but not to the extent which they are going to. They might want to do the peaceful demonstrations like Gandhi and the Korean demonstrations, those usually work. Even if they don't, they get sympathy. Then again, the Tibetans might be just geting retribution, the Chinese are sort of known for not having civil rights laws. The Tibetans, like the Koreans, may think that they have been opressed for too long. They might be just getting some payback. I think that the guys that climbed the golden gates bridge was either brave or just being vandals. Either way, they were charged in the end. I think that this is a good cause, but left to the wrong hands, the handals of felons and vandals.

i think that this was chosen because it is very current, and it is very important. Olympics is very current because it is happening this year and the Tibetans sabbatoging it would be big, breaking news.

This relates because although we aren't learning about China, we are learning about Gandhi and his freedom methods

Steve said...

I think Mr. Lavendar my friend is a great contributer. If there was a SLE reward for teachers, he will receive it. Even though he is busy of all the school works, he took his time to contribute his ideas to us. I think that military forece should not be involved in Olympics. Thank you so much for the comment Mr. Lavendar !

Anonymous said...

to 02698
The dalai lama is only trying to help his country and he should not be blamed for others protesting and violence
The dalai lama has said he is against violence. And China is the cause of all this because it is their country and they should be able to work out some way to maintain peace.
Military force should never be used when thousands of people could be harmed

Anonymous said...

To Mr. Lavender: Thank you so much for reading our comments. And to your first question, I think the International Olympic Committee members will decide it. I think that China are saying that they are “peacefully liberated” because it’s their country, so of course they think everything is ok and everything is right. I prefer Olympics to be help in nations that don’t occupy other countries, but I don’t really care…
To the class: I agree with everyone who said that China should still hold the Olympics because like I said before, it's too late to change now because Olympics is this summer. I also agree that Tibet should be free and that Tibet should stop all the revolts because it is like 02058 said, is very wrong. I don't like how people are thinking that just because China isn't freeing Tibet, they shouldn't have the Olympics after all the hard work they did.

AnthonyK said...

I think that Mr. Lavender's comment was very inquisitive, worthy of an esler award. To answer the questions, i think that it is a bit too late to change the country, it is the year already and the constructions already. But i think that it would be a good idea not to have done it in China. On top of opressing the Tibetans (as i believe and is sometimes believed), there is all the pollution. As for the 'liberating'
from tyrrany, exactly what was the tyrrany? I don't think that people who are opressing and supposedly 'liberating' others from a nonexistant tyranny shouldn't be the host of something that represents good sportsmanship and unity as the Olympics.

ClArA said...

oh~ as i know everyone likes money and sometimes too much. especially in a country which is poor and have a lot of people. Chinese is one of country which includes. Although chinese people are very skilled in sports, they wants to be more than good. so they keep practice and practive until they satisfy.i eventally can understand why people are practicing that hard. if you think at that way! China is a contry with high population. let's say that each regions 100 people wants to do the marathone. and there are 20 regions.(guess. so 20x100=2000. that much people wants to participe marathon. and in the olympic, they only wants to have 2people in 2000peoples. do you think it's easy? i don't really think so. that;s why people are working until they get a good result. they have so many ennemies around them. it's impossible to not work like crazy. for chinese, this opportunity could be a chance to change life. often the orphans are doing dangerous jobs such as running in the half circle flowing area. if people change the olypic place in a other country, Chinese will get no more chance to get in (not much than before)and Chinese people's hope will go away. i guess right now, Chinese are growing rapidly but not until present day, eventough, they imrove and improve, they are still in a poor situation and has no good choices to be educated.


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Mobey Azuonye said...

I think political issues shouldn't be involved in the Olympic Games. China has been planning for this game for a long time, so I think they shouldn’t mind what the Tibetan’s are doing. I don’t think Tibet is ready to get its independence. The time is not ripe yet. They are trying there best to get attention from China like burning things which will result in to a war. I think that it was not a good idea to let China hold the Olympics. The place is kind of messed up, it has pollution issues etc. I pray that Tibet will just wait until the Olympics is over then start there riot.

Anonymous said...

hehe thanks for
finally posting a blog :)

Whoaaa I was not aware of people going against China with having the olympics there. I thought the plan for Beijing Olympics was going perfectly fine. Anyways, this article on Beijing Olympics has really caught my attention since it is related with China and Tibet, and the topic I am currently researching on, is Dalai Lama. Something awkward I found in the article was that I do not believe it is right for China to blame Dalai Lama for the violence that was caused in March, which was done for Tibetan independence. They should not blame Dalai Lama for being the leader of contributing to Tibetan independence. However, except for that issue in this article, I do not think China has done any wrong for having the olympics there. I do not think it is right for people protesting against China having the olympics. The people against China are protesting with signs that said, "Stop Killing" and "No Human rights, no Olympics", but I disagree with these signs. China might be having many issues since they have the one-child policy and are having problems with Tibet, but these issues do not relate with the olympics at all. I think the protest should be done separate, not relating to the olympics being held in China. The issue of Tibetan independence with China is a political issue, not an issue related with ENTERTAINMENT that occurs in the world every leap year. Olympics is an event made for people to enjoy, so people should not try to have opposing reasons against the Chinese having the olympics there soon. The Tibetans might think it's unfair that China is having the olympics held at, but it has officially been chosen as the location of the olympics already and like I said before, I think the problem with deal with. The Tibetan Independence is a totally different issue, so they should not try to make connection with the olympics in Beijing. I am positive about Tibet trying to gain independence, and not become a communist like the Chinese, but I think China should have the opportunity to have the olympics in their country. China has been working on the Beijing Olympics already and the Chinese people may become upset and disappointed since many are excited for having olympics in their country. I do not think the Chinese should give up the olympics to another country and the people should not be affected from government issues. Changing the location now could grow to become a bigger problem, or issue, so I think the Tibetans should give up on protesting against the Beijing Olympics.

Anonymous said...

China should still hold the Olymipics but give freedom to Tibet. I think these two are totally different problems. The world (governments) promised to host Olymipics in China so China should just do it. I feel really bad about Tibet that they don't get to have freedom. However, I think that the world chose the right place to hold 2008 Olympics. First, even though a gap between rich and poor are big, China is really a big country. Population of China is getting over limit, but also because there are a lot of people, China is profitable to become a rich, and strong country. China is a communist country and according to that, Tibet is having hard time during their life but I don't think China loses their chance to host Olymipics because China is not treating Tibet in proper human rights. China is not doing great job with how to treat Tibet, but Olympics is a different problem. 4 years past from 2004 and we promised to do the next Olympics in Beijing. We cannot change it just because Tibets don't want it to be happen. I understand with protesters and I agree with what they are saying but I think freedom and Olympics are different topic. China should hold on Olympics but also use proper humans rights too.

Anonymous said...

What is the purpose of Olympic? Isn’t it to build a friendship between people in each country’s people and to sustain world’s peace? If a country wants to hold Olympic, that country should not put pressure on the other country’s right of independence. Actually, I agree with the quote, “No human rights, no Olympics,” because this quote got the major point. How could a country force people of other nation to be gone but host Olympic? This is just ironical. At this point, it might be no use to tell and remind people about China’s crime with only a piece of news article. Well, who will go out and fight against China at the faraway country?

Anonymous said...

Well when i read this article or whatever, i had kind of two sides. This is the olympics we're talking about... who cares where it actually is held. it been going on for so long and people care where it is held? But i do feel bad for the chinese people because they want freedom and they want human rights, and they're not getting it, so i do understand the chinese people's situation. Tibet should be a free country and not in the hands of china which is communist, because i think that communism is totally not good. i just thought now though, china is so big and is the most populated place in the world and something as big as the olympics is being held there so maybe it wasnt really a good idea. It would be all of the chinese people that can participate plus all the other people around the world coming to watch the olympics. the chinese people might get mad at all the people coming to their country and doing whatever they want. but all in all the decision for the olympics was made long ago and it is too late to change it anyway, so i think that china should find some way to organize the people and 'communism' better. politics and sports entertainment do not go together at all but we still need to find out solutions to the problems that the world faces, instead of just ignoring the problems that the world has.

punky monkey said...

Well when i read this article or whatever, i had kind of two sides. This is the olympics we're talking about... who cares where it actually is held. it been going on for so long and people care where it is held? But i do feel bad for the chinese people because they want freedom and they want human rights, and they're not getting it, so i do understand the chinese people's situation. Tibet should be a free country and not in the hands of china which is communist, because i think that communism is totally not good. i just thought now though, china is so big and is the most populated place in the world and something as big as the olympics is being held there so maybe it wasnt really a good idea. It would be all of the chinese people that can participate plus all the other people around the world coming to watch the olympics. the chinese people might get mad at all the people coming to their country and doing whatever they want. but all in all the decision for the olympics was made long ago and it is too late to change it anyway, so i think that china should find some way to organize the people and 'communism' better. politics and sports entertainment do not go together at all but we still need to find out solutions to the problems that the world faces, instead of just ignoring the problems that the world has.

Anonymous said...

I think that Olympic should still have held in China. Just because Tibet became Independence doesn't mean China can't have olympics. And Political issues shouldn't be involved in China.Tibet declaring to be Independence is a threatning problem but there shouldn't be any issues about Olympics to it. I think it's okay to have Olympics in China because even though they're overpopulated, they already made a decision to hold the Olympic there. And China probably has prepared for it.

A Ok jEnn said...

Blog site is not working so dont give me a late grade!!!

gossip girl said...

since the blog site isn't working, i'm just going to read what other people said about it and post a comment on that. So reading from people's comments, I guess that it's something about China protesting against human rights and the olympics. I don't quite understand what's going on, but I think that Tibet is like attacking China and there's like a humoungous problem between the two of them, but I don't think they should postpone or have the Olympics somewhere else because like everyone says, it's like a tradition and I don't why the olynpics are in the way of China and Tibet's arguement. I think that they should take care of that on their own and let the olympics go on. Also, maybe thr olympics shouldn't be held in China because what if something bad happens? then we'll be in bigger trouble... anyways, i think this is what is going on from what I read from my fellow classmates.haha. I eventually got to post a comment!!!

Anonymous said...

when i finished reading it, I was a little surprised because i did't heard it before. I think that china have to free Tibet, I don't think that the China did right thing. I hope that china would give freedom to Tibet and the Olympics would still be held in China.

Anonymous said...

I didn't know that China and Tibet had problem and I thought that Tibet is just a city in China. I don't get why China wants Tibet to be part of China. If they don't leave Tibet, I don't think China can finish the 2008 Beijing Olympic successfully. I think "No human rights, no Olympics." means that China have to leave Tibet or they can't have olympic in their country.

Anonymous said...

the comment by 02703 is me. I forgot my ID number. It's 02773

Justin said...

I think it is quite sad,disturbing and annoying that at this time when the olympics are about to be held tibetans are protesting. This is a really big issue because the olympics might not be held, so I think China should make them independent because they have been ruling them for almost 50 years. and even though they I have Tibet they do not get a lot of benefit from that colony.

Anonymous said...

I am so sorry that I am late :(
I didn’t mean it.. :(
I’m soooooo sorry!~
Why do politics involved in Olympics game? -_-
Isn’t Olympics tradition game that had been last since long time ago? I thought that it was a game where lots of different countries have fun playing games and have winner and looser. Well, winner and looser was just for the game, but the important thing was that people on the earth was able to be together and have fun together. BUT why does politics come into this event?! It is supposed to be fun game that is entertaining. But when politics come in… Trust me, it wouldn’t be fun… Just because of politics our world’s game shouldn’t be changed. I think that they should keep the game in traditional form. I think that this article was chosen to tell us that there is a problem of politics going on in China. Also because we are studying about Asia and writing a REPORT about it… It is relating to what we learned because when we were studying our textbook, we learned about China is not leaving Tibet alone and bothering them.

Anonymous said...

oh my.!! im sorry..im late T.T
i forgot about it...

I dont think they should postpone the Olympics or do it somewhere else just because China and Tibet are having problems. That has nothing to do with the olympics and it should be considered as two diffrent things. However I do think that Tibet deserves to be a country of its own and be free. Even though they are a big part of china and its china's"loss" if Tibet gains independent, Tibet shouldnt be a communist country like china. First of all, i dont like the idea of communism. Why cant a country have its own freedom? The people of the country have the right to be 'free' and make their own choices, not the goverment. But I still think that it was wrong for Tibet to hold protests and burn down China's buildings. Like i said this situation shouldnt be mixed with the Olymipics. "No humnan rights,No olympics"?. I disagree with this quote. China should still hold the olympics in Beijing no matter what. There are so many people waiting for the Olympics thats going to be held in Beijing and exited about it. And no one has the right or the excuse to take that away.

Anonymous said...

I think most of the comments written by my friends are really good. They explained themselves really well and I agree with most of them. Like my other classmates, I do think that the olympics should be held in China and that politics shouldnt be mixed up with other things like the Olympics.

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Anonymous said...

Wow…people are so passionate about freeing Tibet. But trying to stop the Olympics is too much. What do the Olympics have to do with freeing Tibet? If the Olympics are not hosted in Beijing, China then will that free Tibet? I don’t think so. I honestly think that it won’t matter if the Olympics are hosted in Beijing or not. Maybe I think this way because I don’t know much about what the protestors are planning. What will help them if the Olympics are hosted somewhere else? Anyways, Olympics is about enjoying the games and having a fun time where people can represent their country and play for them. I just think of it as something to have fun with. Not something to fight about or anything to do with independence. Even though I want Tibet free, I didn’t expect to see the Olympics involved with it. Many times, I have seen people, even in Korea, protesting the Chinese rule of Tibet. People have been going around protesting even in South Korea. But I think the Olympics should just go on as normal because it is like a tradition to the whole world. Millions of people will be really upset if they postponed the Olympics or if there were going to be none at all. I would be really angry and I would have thought it ridiculous even to think about why there were no more Olympics because of the protestors of Tibet. “No human rights, no Olympics.” How are human rights and Olympics connected? I just don’t get it. Maybe the protestors have another plan that we don’t know of. Since there are people protesting for Tibet’s independence, China is blaming Dalai Lama and his followers for all the chaos. I don’t think Dalai Lama is to blame for everything that has to do with Tibet because Dalai Lama is not forcing people to protest. He is just trying to get people to help with freeing Tibet, not forming chaos over the Olympics in China. Anyways, China is such a overcrowded country and if there are going to be the Olympics in Beijing, China will get a lot of money. That is probably one reason why China wants the Olympics in their country so badly. As a conclusion I think that China has a right to have the Olympics in their country because that decision was chosen long time ago. It shouldn’t be postponed because it is a tradition and if they do postpone it because of the Tibetan protestors, many people will probably be angry.

Anonymous said...

It should be noted that the protestors are protesting for the right cause, that must be taken seriously. But the method they have chosen is not the right course of action. China must work for the human rights and stuff like that, but Olympics should not be disturbed. Olympics is where all nations meet to share their sportsmenship and to show their nationality through sports. That spirit should honored, and disturbed for no reason. Protesting for one and to disturb Olympic is another.

Anonymous said...

China's politics and world's olympic cant be compared. Olympic is for every countries that are participating and the people enjoy them but politics are different. I dont think you have to put politics into olympics and break the fun of it. Also, I want tibet to be independent country and communism is not that great. Eventhough china has a lot of problems, I think it should hold the olympics because it was chosen by the world.

Anonymous said...

"No human rights, no Olympics."
This quote is really aweful..
I dont really like this quote but i like one world one dream. Human rights is considered as politics and olympics is different. Olympics is a festival that we all enjoy and entertainment and it is countries pride
i dont think human rights need to be compared with olympics

Anonymous said...

I like this quote, “One world, One dream. Free Tibet.” This quote really inspires me and makes me think about Tibet, that they only want one thing in this world. One dream in this world, to be free. Tibet really want to be free and I can see why they are protesting. “No human rights, No Olympics.” I think that China should still hold the Olympics because the Olympics are held all over the world in many places for different countries to meet and compete with each other and to have fun. Olympics are a tradition and it is hard to change tradition, especially if the tradition is like the Olympic. Human rights and the Olympics should not be compared but I really thing strongly that Tibet should also be free from China’s hand and that there will be no more conflict. I can see Tibet really trying to be free like putting banners on the San Francisco’s Golden Gate Bridge and also protesting. I think this Olympic will help China greatly because many tourists will come and buy stuff in China and it will help China greatly so I think China should still hold the Olympics. I am not saying that Tibet is bad or that holding the Olympics is against Tibet because I still think that Tibet should be free.

Anonymous said...

I like this quote, “One world, One dream. Free Tibet.” This quote really inspires me and makes me think about Tibet, that they only want one thing in this world. One dream in this world, to be free. Tibet really want to be free and I can see why they are protesting. “No human rights, No Olympics.” I think that China should still hold the Olympics because the Olympics are held all over the world in many places for different countries to meet and compete with each other and to have fun. Olympics are a tradition and it is hard to change tradition, especially if the tradition is like the Olympic. Human rights and the Olympics should not be compared but I really thing strongly that Tibet should also be free from China’s hand and that there will be no more conflict. I can see Tibet really trying to be free like putting banners on the San Francisco’s Golden Gate Bridge and also protesting. I think this Olympic will help China greatly because many tourists will come and buy stuff in China and it will help China greatly so I think China should still hold the Olympics. I am not saying that Tibet is bad or that holding the Olympics is against Tibet because I still think that Tibet should be free.

Anonymous said...

China's politics and world's olympic cant be compared. Olympic is for every countries that are participating and the people enjoy them but politics are different. I dont think you have to put politics into olympics and break the fun of it. Also, I want tibet to be independent country and communism is not that great. Eventhough china has a lot of problems, I think it should hold the olympics because it was chosen by the world.

"No human rights, no Olympics."
This quote is really aweful..
I dont really like this quote but i like one world one dream. Human rights is considered as politics and olympics is different. Olympics is a festival that we all enjoy and entertainment and it is countries pride
i dont think human rights need to be compared with olympics

Anonymous said...

It says that Tibetan people are protesting because the Olympics are going on. I really don't get it. Is it because they want freedom and human rights? Yes, it is. But its the Olympics! What the heck? So are they protesting against the Olympics?? I really don't get it. If this is the issue, then I believe that every human celeberation in this world should end, until everyone in this world could get the same treatment and human rights. So I also believe that the Olympic Sponserers and everyone in it should stop if there is a problem with the people in Tibet. But of course, this world is not perfect. This will NEVER happen. "Everyone is equal." Heck, no way. Not in this weird world. So overall, I believe that the main source of this conflict is coming from China, which got to Tibet, which is part of China I belive. China has to give up on communism. Even without it I belive that they will still live as a poor country unless they get major support. China is being an ignorant fool, putting traditions and celebrations first, rather than the people and millions of poor people and starving children. They need another great leader, a wise one. China is too big. Too stupid to do the right thing. But whatever.

Anonymous said...

I really dis agree with the quote "No human rights, no Olymics", I dont understand why people are comaring politics with a traditional sport. Olimpic has been played for years, it made countries to compete each other and also to get a better relationship. It should not be disgust in that way. And, it doesnt even make sense, why does Tibet has to have their independence in order to have olimpic in China? Waw, I guess people of Tibet really wants independence. I would also be like people in Tibet for North and South Korea's combining, however, I think the people should have a better reason to gain their independence.

Sharon said...

I think blaming Tibet for the disruption shouldn't be continued by the Chinese Government. I think that is the same thing as what the Korean did to Japanese. The Korean also made violent protests too... I think it is not only the Tibet's fault. They have right to want independance and not even China could stop that. There might be a lot of people who disagree with me but I think my opinion is right... If we look at the history, there have been many countries who boycotted.... This is not the first one if one or two countries boycott for the sake of Tibet....
That's what I thinkkkkkkk

Anonymous said...

Many people have waited for the Olympics and it is going to occure very soon. This tournament is going to take place in China and many problems have been found.
After reading this article, I could feel that the world had selected the wrong country to host the Olympics. The tragic events of conflict have proved this. The fact that Tibet is taken over by China has caused Tibetans to demonstrate against of the Olympics in China. They have taken this chance to inform the world of their willing of independence and freedom. Internationally, the pro0tibetans have lead much chaos with the demonstrations and etc. The Tibetans aren't the only ones guilty. China should have also thought of the rights of Tibet and decided for the olympics to take place in their country.
Overall, the Olympics shouldn't take place in China because, China and Tibet are having many issues and this may become a obstacle against the tournament. China also doesn't have the right to do this anyway. Before participating for the Olympics, they should have predicted the problems before them, but theu haven't and this has made a problem around the world.
The quote "No Human Rights. No Olympics" show the discontent Tibetans. The will for freedom is carved into this quote and also threatens the world with a refusall of the tournament without their own human rights.

Anonymous said...

I also feel that Tibet is being too full of their own thoughts. Even though they clearly know that the world is suffering climaxes because of their refusals and complaints and they're not the only country in the world that isn't independent, they still do those chaotic demonstrations. The Tibetans should get a wider view of the world and should notice their stupidity. Even if they fight against groups like that, they don't have a possibility to win or recieve their wishes.

Anonymous said...

When I read the quote "no human rights no Olympics," I don't think human rights should have anything to do with human rights seriously. Human rights should come after the games. I think that is because the Olympics have been a tradition of multi sporting events for hundreds of years between athletes representing their country. Political problems between China and Tibet will "tarnish" the exuberant Olympic Games. It will destroy the joy and if the ethical human rights problems go in the way of the games, the spirit of watching the exciting games will be gone. There is always time to solve the problems with calm procedures, but the games occur every 4 years. The Chinese people have been already preparing the stadium and the games. These Chinese people have been preparing with eagerness. I am not saying Human rights are petty. I am saying that Olympics can come first and then solving the problem can come next. Tibet does really want to be independent free from China's rule. Communism really isn't a good idea, and it's awful. So I do understand that protestors are boycotting and making tirades. They need to be calm and wait after the games. This article was certainly well written to teach us about real life application of conflicts. For example, what we can do in this situation when you have numerous solutions. It's like a debate kind of. I think the arguments should come after the games. This article relates to class when during class we have learned about the horrible relationships between Tibet and China for a brief amount of time. China does control Tibet with injustice and communism. This article shows just some of the Tibetans' response and the supporters.